Halo 3 Perfected!!

They could make Halo 2 with better graphics, and more multiplayer maps. ;)

and release it on PC simultaneously.

and release it on PC simultaneously.

But will Halo 2 ever be released on the PC? It shouldn't be that difficult to get Gearbox or some other company to make the port.

But will Halo 2 ever be released on the PC?


Of course it will. You'd have to be one hell of a dumbarse businessman not to release it to PC.

Halo perfected? So, what, they took out the 'suck'?

BYE

Add nudity, more sexually suggestive dialogue from female marines, and the option to play as a Grunt or marine.

And nudity.

Halo perfected? So, what, they took out the 'suck'?

Why is it that people like you somehow resent Halo for being one of the best shooter series ever made? Is it because you're another franchise fanboy, or do you just not like games of high quality?

Why is it that people like you somehow resent Halo for being one of the best shooter series ever made?

'Cause it's not one of the best shooter series ever made. It's an excellent FPS for a console, and works well for console multiplayer. Doesn't make it a good game over all, especially when it was so repetative.

BYE

'Cause it's not one of the best shooter series ever made.

Tell that to the 11 million people who would be prone to disagree with you.

that's because they don't know better. its like trying to say C&C Generals is good without playing Total Annihilation.

Halo 2 is an improvement over Halo though, so its working its way from "mediocre" to "above average". If you're lucky, the trend continues and it'll become "good".

but I'd rather hold my breath for a PS3 FPS that uses the mouse and keyboard.

'Cause it's not one of the best shooter series ever made. It's an excellent FPS for a console, and works well for console multiplayer. Doesn't make it a good game over all, especially when it was so repetative.

BYE
What is the best shooter ever made, in your estimation?

Tell that to the 11 million people who would be prone to disagree with you.

Er, careful. That way lies Myst.

Tell that to the 11 million people who would be prone to disagree with you.


Just because someone buys a game doesnt mean that their opinion MUST be that they think it is the best game of it's type ever made.

Halo perfected? So, what, they took out the 'suck'?

BYE

Dammit Ladiesman, you don't need to keep...

Oh...Oops...:p

Just because someone buys a game doesnt mean that their opinion MUST be that they think it is the best game of it's type ever made.

Actually, I took the sales figure and subtracted 25% accounting for those who don't like the game and bought it, based on a GameSpot survey. So roughly 11 million people DO like Halo a lot.

Actually, I took the sales figure and subtracted 25% accounting for those who don't like the game and bought it, based on a GameSpot survey. So roughly 11 million people DO like Halo a lot.

A million people bought SOF2. Twelve million people (IIRC) watched the live-action Scooby Doo movie.

Neither of these things were particularly good.

Just because something sells well doesn't mean that the product itself is good, it merely means that it has good advertising.

A million people bought SOF2. Twelve million people (IIRC) watched the live-action Scooby Doo movie.

Neither of these things were particularly good.

Just because something sells well doesn't mean that the product itself is good, it merely means that it has good advertising.


Exactly.
And in the case of Halo. Massive fan hype to boot

A million people bought SOF2. Twelve million people (IIRC) watched the live-action Scooby Doo movie.

Neither of these things were particularly good.

Just because something sells well doesn't mean that the product itself is good, it merely means that it has good advertising.

I took the 75% stat from a Gamespot survey indicating that 75% of people thought Halo 2 had either met or passed their expectations.

Surely that kind of a fanbase is indicative of some kind of quality?

And besides, people don't like Halo as a matter of opinion. When looked at technically, in terms of gameplay mechanics and story, it's a very, very well-made game.

I would like to see a longer singleplayer game for a start! Of course the standard, better graphics and cool new story are a must, but I would also like to learn move about the other parts of the HALO universe we havn't seen and perhaps see another sparten or two... :drevil:

Also, please don't turn thios into another "Halo2 sucks/rocks" thread, those are tiresome and in the end, it is someones opinion, and therefore isn't up for debate.

I took the 75% stat from a Gamespot survey indicating that 75% of people thought Halo 2 had either met or passed their expectations.

Surely that kind of a fanbase is indicative of some kind of quality?

And besides, people don't like Halo as a matter of opinion. When looked at technically, in terms of gameplay mechanics and story, it's a very, very well-made game.

That's 75% of opinionated gamespot users who could be arsed to take a survey. Statistics 101, mate, when you have a biased sample the results of a survey mean zilch.

That's 75% of opinionated gamespot users who could be arsed to take a survey. Statistics 101, mate, when you have a biased sample the results of a survey mean zilch.

It doesn't mean zilch at all, you idiot. Zilch would be no survey. I'd prefer to listen to the statistics te be honest. Eh, it probably is biased, but it definitely says more than zilch.

It doesn't mean zilch at all, you idiot. Zilch would be no survey. I'd prefer to listen to the statistics te be honest. Eh, it probably is biased, but it definitely says more than zilch.

If it's biased, it stands to reason that it is not a very good source. It'd be like the FDA accepting a survey from a drug company that says that its cancer-causing drug is totally a-okay when other independent surveys say otherwise.

Er, careful. That way lies Myst.

And The Sims.

Don't get me wrong, I think Halo's a decent enough game, but there's no way in hell I think it deserves the hype that is piled on it, very few games do.

Halo perfected? So, what, they took out....

Dammit Ladiesman, you don't need to keep...

Oh...Oops...:p

Oh...beat me to it.

Don't get me wrong, I think Halo's a decent enough game, but there's no way in hell I think it deserves the hype that is piled on it, very few games do.

I agree. Halo's not God's Bollocks by a long shot, but its a perfect example of a great FPS. But on terms of hype, game quality doesn't really relate. People said Halo would be an awesome game, and it was. It didn't do anything particularly new, but then it was never supposed to. It is a keystone to the genre though - an example of how good a well-made FPS can be.

And The Sims.

Don't get me wrong, I think Halo's a decent enough game, but there's no way in hell I think it deserves the hype that is piled on it, very few games do.
what would?

I agree. Halo's not God's Bollocks by a long shot, but its a perfect example of a great FPS. But on terms of hype, game quality doesn't really relate. People said Halo would be an awesome game, and it was. It didn't do anything particularly new, but then it was never supposed to. It is a keystone to the genre though - an example of how good a well-made FPS can be.
yeah, but it isn't a GREAT well-made FPS. good just doesn't cut it with the hype surrounding it.

It doesn't mean zilch at all, you idiot. Zilch would be no survey. I'd prefer to listen to the statistics te be honest. Eh, it probably is biased, but it definitely says more than zilch.

You're right.

It means *EVEN LESS* than zero.

A biased survey is more dangerous than no information when one thinks about it, as it gives false data that may be used as gospel.

<-has taken statistics.

What the fuck is with this obsession that a game has to be "revolutionary" in order to be good? :wtf:

Revolutionary != Good

In fact, not only have I never called Halo revolutionary, the only other time I've even had both "revolutionary" and "Halo" in the same post were to say that Halo is not revolutionary! Hell as far as I can tell, no one here who likes Halo has ever said it was revolutionary, so why the flying fuck does it keep coming up? :wtf: :confused:

Just because it isn't revolutionary doesn't mean it can't be a great game.

I can't remember the last time I've played a revolutionary game. Guess I haven't played any great games recently.

And what the fuck is it with all the "it didn't match the hype" bullshit? How pathetically desperate do you have to be in order to reach for the weakest, flimsiest art criticism on the planet?

Somebody show me this almighty Hypemeter, please. Is it in Times Square, next to that stupid ball that descends during New Years? I want to see this Hypemeter for myself, because frankly, I had heard barely whispers of this "Halo" prior to playing it.

And what the fuck is it with all the "it didn't match the hype" bullshit? How pathetically desperate do you have to be in order to reach for the weakest, flimsiest art criticism on the planet?

Somebody show me this almighty Hypemeter, please. Is it in Times Square, next to that stupid ball that descends during New Years? I want to see this Hypemeter for myself, because frankly, I had heard barely whispers of this "Halo" prior to playing it.
You know... you're right. When it first came out, I didn't know anything about it or hear much about it. The first time I saw it was when an EBgames had it playing. The first time I played it was at my cousin's when he told me he had it and told me that we could play it co-op....

Why is it that people like you somehow resent Halo for being one of the best shooter series ever made? Is it because you're another franchise fanboy, or do you just not like games of high quality?


It's probably because it's mediocre at best. What a console gamer might consider fantastic is what a PC gamer would consider average. I played Halo and wondered what the hell everyone was on that seemed to make the game so appealing. The only reason I can accept is that PC gaming, in all it's wonderful subtleties and brillance has spoiled me rotten.

PC gaming or death!!!

And so another Halo thread descends into a stupid "It sucks" "No it doesn't" debate.

If people want a Halo love-in, just let them for crap's sake. This was supposed to be a discussion about making Halo 3 the best in the series, not how hyped or otherwise Halo:CE was. If you didn't like the first two games, maybe you shouldn't be in here.

On the subject...

I think Halo 3 needs to bring back the bright open landscapes of the original. I really enjoyed the large combat zones you would end up strolling into. Halo 2 seemed way too cramped, especially on the co-op mode, and lost a bit of the character that made Halo:CE so enjoyable.

Also, expanding on the allied soldiers would be good. I don't want the game to be a Squad-based FPS,

If Bungie wants Halo 3 to be good, I recommend giving it over to Infinity Ward. Now there's a company that knows how to make an intense game. They didn't give us ninjas on fire running through a hospital zone -- they gave us Nazis on fire dying through a warzone.

I love Call of Duty.

Halo 3 should have you with a squad 95% of the time. You have good squad AI, so use it!

A human gunship, with missiles and a chaingun. I'd also like the M6D (though it should be rare) and MA5B (2x Scope and some accuracy please?) Alyeska's weapon set was pretty damn cool.

Nightvision, run on a battery. They did it with the sniper scope in Halo 1, after all. This is the damn Master Chief, remember - if we can get 90% of our soldier nightvision, they sure as hell should get the last SPARTAN one.

A human gunship, with missiles and a chaingun. I'd also like the M6D (though it should be rare) and MA5B (2x Scope and some accuracy please?) Alyeska's weapon set was pretty damn cool.
I agree with this, completely.

Nightvision, run on a battery. They did it with the sniper scope in Halo 1, after all. This is the damn Master Chief, remember - if we can get 90% of our soldier nightvision, they sure as hell should get the last SPARTAN one.
But not this. Spartan's have night vision as per genetic modifications, hence a battery isn't needed, unless you count ATP.:p
So yes to night vision and no to a needed energy source. Though I guess there could be a button to turn it 'on' and 'off'. Maybe by the dialation and constriction of the iris; but that's all background info.

I agree with this, completely.

But not this. Spartan's have night vision as per genetic modifications, hence a battery isn't needed, unless you count ATP.:p
So yes to night vision and no to a needed energy source. Though I guess there could be a button to turn it 'on' and 'off'. Maybe by the dialation and constriction of the iris; but that's all background info.

Ah, makes sense. What did the Sniper Scope do, then? Because that's what I was thinking of. Can elites see in the dark as well?

Oh, and constriction of the iris? Please, it's actually him putting on his shades, which all badasses are required to do. :)

Ah, makes sense. What did the Sniper Scope do, then? Because that's what I was thinking of. Can elites see in the dark as well?

It just wasn't included in the game. Sort of like kicking.:p

Oh, and constriction of the iris? Please, it's actually him putting on his shades, which all badasses are required to do. :)
True, but that's hard to do when you're wearing a helmet.:p

If you've got to do one thing, either cut down the Flood, or as has already been mentioned, integrate it with the game better. In Halo, the Library was immensely repetitive.

No Library! Less Flood, or at least you fighting the flood on your own. And a squad could be interesting. It should at least be looked at.

I think Halo 3 needs to bring back the bright open landscapes of the original. I really enjoyed the large combat zones you would end up strolling into. Halo 2 seemed way too cramped, especially on the co-op mode, and lost a bit of the character that made Halo:CE so enjoyable.
I agree completely about this. I really missed the big open areas, with just some trees, rocks, and uneven terrain for cover, trying to figure out a way to take out a fortified Covenant position with whatever method I deem best.

What I want to see most though in Halo 3 is a sprint feature.

It just wasn't included in the game. Sort of like kicking.:p

Nor sprinitng, which would have been a really good addition.