The latest Denon DVD-A1XV - 1080P

well its the same as my A1XV, except it will do 1080p. Mines to to go in and be upgraded soon.

Right its one hell of a DVD player with first rate deinterlacing and quality audio. But at this point with blu-ray/HDDVD about to hit i would think long and hard about buying one. Its good yes but, its still SD definition(albeit at its best), and its not exactly 100% better than anything else. and certainly not better by the price margin. However if you have the cash to waste then its superb.

I dont think i would buy one now, not with Hidef DVD imminent

Thekop, as you know I just replaced my 3910 with the Arcam. It cost me ?25 to change it, since I bought 2nd hand. There is a good difference on my H79 - I see you've got the H72i. I would love to see a shootout between stuff like the Marantz 9600/Arcam DV29 & the Denon A1XV/A.

I felt it was worth the upgrade, even tho HD is round the corner, but then I've been pretty lucky to get the Arcam for such a good price (?00). If you want SACD then why not demo the Marantz against the Denon. I would definitely recommend the Arcam tho, but it doesn't do SACD, & I have to unplug the HDMI if I want to use component or scart outputs, or play CDR's, since it interfers with analogue outputs. They may have done a firmware fix for this, but not sure.

well its the same as my A1XV, except it will do 1080p. Mines to to go in and be upgraded soon.

Right its one hell of a DVD player with first rate deinterlacing and quality audio. But at this point with blu-ray/HDDVD about to hit i would think long and hard about buying one. Its good yes but, its still SD definition(albeit at its best), and its not exactly 100% better than anything else. and certainly not better by the price margin. However if you have the cash to waste then its superb.

I dont think i would buy one now, not with Hidef DVD imminent

As you know i'm a bit of Denon 3910 DVD fan but this will be like the last standard DVD player purchase for me.. I'm not too convinced that HD/DVD or Blue Ray will hit it off but you never know... :grin:
Thanks for your thoughts.... I'm certainly going to take my time over the purchase ( with a few Demos first ) and when it becomes available

Cheers !

Tim :)

Thekop, as you know I just replaced my 3910 with the Arcam. It cost me £325 to change it, since I bought 2nd hand. There is a good difference on my H79 - I see you've got the H72i. I would love to see a shootout between stuff like the Marantz 9600/Arcam DV29 & the Denon A1XV/A.

I felt it was worth the upgrade, even tho HD is round the corner, but then I've been pretty lucky to get the Arcam for such a good price (£800). If you want SACD then why not demo the Marantz against the Denon. I would definitely recommend the Arcam tho, but it doesn't do SACD, & I have to unplug the HDMI if I want to use component or scart outputs, or play CDR's, since it interfers with analogue outputs. They may have done a firmware fix for this, but not sure.

Yeah i've noticed you replaced your 3910, congrats on your upgrade..
I certainly considered Arcam or equivilent models.. I've never had any gripes with the Denon as i always believed it was a very capable player... But time waits for no one and I'm itching to upgrade again :grin:
I'm not to bothered with stereo playback or the Universal aspect of the next player ( Even though the Denon A1 is full of toys ) I'm definitely placing Video playback as the number one goal ! ... My seperate hi-fi system takes care of the music playback which is really quite lovely :)

Thanks for your input :smashin:

i should say though i am dam glad i did buy it.

Well, if I had the money....I would love to have Denon-link back for movies & DVD-A


I'm not to bothered with stereo playback or the Universal aspect of the next player ( Even though the Denon A1 is full of toys ) I'm definitely placing Video playback as the number one goal ! ...


Worth demoing with some others then. You might end up saving yourself a few quid. But I somehow think you've got your heart set on the Denon. And who could blame you. ;)

If mine ever turns up I'll let you know what it's like...

If mine ever turns up I'll let you know what it's like...

Thanks JASE. Be sure to let us know.:thumbsup:

Will do. Been waiting six weeks...

Might also be worth bearing in mind that Denon will be launching the DVD-3930 this summer, which features the SO Terranex Realta T2, at a much lower asking price. This'll give you an in to the Realta, while saving a fair bit of money too!

Might also be worth bearing in mind that Denon will be launching the DVD-3930 this summer, which features the SO Terranex Realta T2, at a much lower asking price. This'll give you an in to the Realta, while saving a fair bit of money too!

I've asked someone in the know if they'll actually confirm that. I'd be surprised (and gutted!) if the Realta chip ended up in the 3910 replacement.

I've asked someone in the know if they'll actually confirm that. I'd be surprised (and gutted!) if the Realta chip ended up in the 3910 replacement.

From what I hear, the T2 - haven't found out exactly what it is - will be in the 2930 too!

It's like what happened after the A11, when the 3910 came out with much of what was in the former, but in a 2900-like chassis, without the more expensive build and linear PSU, etc, of the A11.

I've not seen any mention of a T2 or a chopped down version of the Realta chip. Where did you see it mentioned??

Here http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/789382/an/0/page/0#Post789382

Interesting. Still a bit dubious though. AVS Forum's Video Processor section would usually be the first to get wind of a new chip or version of a current chip. Have to wait and see I suppose.

thekop if your after just the very best in pic quality, then i must admit you would probaly get a better picture if you went with somthing like an opp970 and a video processor like a genum VXP or HQV based unit. or why not just SDI mod your 3910, and put the investment into an SDI based videoprocesso with said chips...that would be the best pic option for sure.

A DVDO vp30 is pretty near identical to the A1XV and in some places better but a fair margin cheaper and can be fitted with SDI. IMHO a quality video processer is the way forward if you want the ultimate.

thekop if your after just the very best in pic quality, then i must admit you would probaly get a better picture if you went with somthing like an opp970 and a video processor like a genum VXP or HQV based unit. or why not just SDI mod your 3910, and put the investment into an SDI based videoprocesso with said chips...that would be the best pic option for sure.

A DVDO vp30 is pretty near identical to the A1XV and in some places better but a fair margin cheaper and can be fitted with SDI. IMHO a quality video processer is the way forward if you want the ultimate.

Sure i am considering the SDI mod with a Video processor, i guess it'll be nice having it all in one box though.. Having said that it might turn out a little cheaper plus the video processor can be used with other Video sources..
I'll see how potential owners get on with the Latest Denon before i take the plunge..

Cheers


Tim :)

One of the reasons I ditched my 3910, actually, was so I could get a player which would deliver interlaced to a vp via HDMI, which the Arcams can. I thought about getting the 3910 SDI modded, but it isn't one of the best players to do it on, & would have meant me having to shell out for a vp & the SDI mod right now.

Of course the only possible downside with the Oppo is the sound, although I haven't heard one. Even if you use coaxial output for movies you can get varying resluts from different players. My Sony HX900 sounds pretty tinny via coaxial.

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One of the reasons I ditched my 3910, actually, was so I could get a player which would deliver interlaced to a vp via HDMI, which the Arcams can. I thought about getting the 3910 SDI modded, but it isn't one of the best players to do it on, & would have meant me having to shell out for a vp & the SDI mod right now.

Of course the only possible downside with the Oppo is the sound, although I haven't heard one. Even if you use coaxial output for movies you can get varying resluts from different players. My Sony HX900 sounds pretty tinny via coaxial.

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I have to admit that Audio replay from the Denons do seem to be a lot better than most... I've had various Pioneer models in the past ( Way back to the Pioneer DV 717 in gold - when that was launched ) and have always left me underwhelmed .... I personally wouldn't go for cheaper models with a video processor ( I'm not a snob though :grin: ) but solid build quality is a must. The more expensive Denons take some beating for that :) I always believe you always get what you payed for.. I'm keeping an eye on the forth coming DVD 3910 replacement too though..

Tim :)

Well. Seems the 3930 may well indeed have the Realta chip in it (presumably the same chip that's found in the A1XVA rather than a cut down version). Just awaiting final confirmation from another source to be 100% sure.

SDI route is certainly the best for the best video picture but Denon need to change their MPEG decoder in order to be able to compete with the 'big boys'. In fact they used to do this when they cloned Panasonic players!! (1600? and not so long ago!!). With out this then there is still room for improvement on the video side, however there are many other reasons for a DVD player other than video pictures ;)

Well. Seems the 3930 may well indeed have the Realta chip in it (presumably the same chip that's found in the A1XVA rather than a cut down version). Just awaiting final confirmation from another source to be 100% sure.

Yes, it seems the Realta is about to become far more affordable. For example, Toshiba recently announced two projectors, at around £1000-1200 (one is et20 with ‘Anyplace’ 2D keystone), featuring this chip, although they are only 480p capable DLPs.

HQV for the mases is a good thing. Its pretty dam decent with the HQV, and on a big screen its quality is undeniable.

The existing chips are old now, about 5 years for a SiI504, which was little different to the earlier 503. This seems like a good move to a new chipset but we must not forget it is all down to how it is implemented whether it is good or great. The SiI504 implementations have come on leaps and bounds in 5 years.

This is interesting stuff. Any news on the new Lumagen with HQV and HDMI inputs/outputs?

From what I hear, the T2 - haven't found out exactly what it is - will be in the 2930 too!

Apparently, the 2930 won't use the SO Realta T2, but instead use the- new SI Reon chip...

See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=666053

Although, I think the REON is one of SO's chips?

The Reon chip is used in front and rear projection displays.

http://www.siliconoptix.com/chipProducts/SiliconOptixReon_GX.cfm?CFID=4780365&CFTOKEN=b91e835eb66828d6-89E9F424-DA50-B8FB-CA7CE54B83AFB0F9

Interesting.. So some of you think you could do better than the Denon A1 XV - 1080P for the money ? :)

Pending a review or two might help things a long...

Gandley have you seen the new Marantz DV9600 in action - or anyone else for that matter ? :)

Regards

Tim :)

Well. Seems the 3930 may well indeed have the Realta chip in it (presumably the same chip that's found in the A1XVA rather than a cut down version). Just awaiting final confirmation from another source to be 100% sure.

Quoting myself! My other source can't confirm any details 100% at the moment but HQV in the 3930 is a possibility. Until they do I'd take some of this info as possibilities rather than definites.

Hi all

First post from me here.

My A1 is currently with Denon getting the 1080p mod. Getting withdrawal at the moment having to back to the old Sony player.

Just need to get the 1080p plasma to match!

Thekop. If you're in the market for a really high-end SD DVD player that does 1080p, why not also consider the Meridian G98.
Im frustrated by the fact that my DVD player outputs 1080p but my screen wont take it.
I think you'll find that even without the realta chip, the PQ is breathtaking and then of course, there's the stereo and multichannel sound which I imagine will be at least as good as the Denon, if not better.
The "cheaper player with a scaler" or an SDI mod really should be considered, too.

I looked at the G98 alongside the A1 last year. To my eyes the Denon had superior PQ. The Meridian was an order of magnitude better on audio, but as i have a dedicated SACD player this wasn't a consideration for me.

On a different subject, i'm currently considering what new screen to get (Sky HD being installed May 30th) and am torn between a getting another big 720p plasma, or possibly the new JVC 70" D-Ila until the 2nd gen of 1080p plasmas come onto the market. I was thinking of getting the new Panasonic 65" panel, but rumour has it that it still won't accept a 1080p signal via HDMI. Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks JASE. Be sure to let us know.:thumbsup:

Finally got mine a few days ago. Well worth the wait. Easily the best image I've seen from a DVD player and I've had several scalers and players including an SDI modded RP82. Audio via Denon Link 3 is superb. Been tinkering with the various picture adjustments over the last couple of days and will fine tune them some more as I go along. Currently just using 480P via the BNC Component Outputs. Soon as I get a new display I'll be able to test out it's scaling abilities as well.

Overall, very impressed with it. :)

I'm another happy owner of the Denon A1-XV. It's also good to know that the player has upgrade options to it's latest model.

I'm using the DVI output for the plasma, and the picture quality is the best I've seen, and the improvement from component to DVI (1080i) is again, pretty significant.

The picture quality I've seen been projected on screen was amazing. Significantly better than the 3910 and another arcam player that was tested on (can't remember the model).

Having DVI/HDMI running at the same time also allows the best possible connection if I decide to invest in a projector.

Compared to my previous player, Marantz SA12, the sound quality improves by revealing alot of details in the soundtracks. It's a better SACD player than the SA12 too. In 2 channel, the SA17 outperforms the Denon, but in multichannel, the Denon outperforms the SA17 easily (probably with the added bass management advantage?). All tested in pure direct mode only.

The Denon is an extremely well built machine.

interesting......
i was toying with buying an a1xv but staying with component into my aging sharp xv9000....hoping gandley 'gives' his away (lol)
is the dvi / hdmi a BIG improvement over component?
if it is it looks like a new proj as well ......

maybe i'll have to stick with my A1 and get a sclaer?

cheers
lighty

interesting......
i was toying with buying an a1xv but staying with component into my aging sharp xv9000....hoping gandley 'gives' his away (lol)
is the dvi / hdmi a BIG improvement over component?
if it is it looks like a new proj as well ......

maybe i'll have to stick with my A1 and get a sclaer?

cheers
lighty

HAHA.

Not gonna happen. its been sent away for the upgrade, and i think i will keep it as i havent seen anything better, the new arcam included.

its a great unit and the PQ is A1.

At this point im all HD-DVD which is just stunning and far exceeds the current dvd PQ. Guys buy a HD A1 and enjoy the very best movies can be at this time.

I don't think there is any player to touch this at the moment but am interested in an Arcam equipped ABT102 player, perhaps the new Arcam universal FMJ......?

does anybody know, seen or heard anything about the benefits of the "superior" National Semiconductor processor in a unit like the (more expensive) Classe CDP-300 as compared to the Realta/DVDO processor combo in the A1XV?

Does the A1XV'A' suffer with any chroma issues?

Does the A1XV'A' suffer with any chroma issues?

It's video processing masks it. Scroll down to the Benchmark Results and paragraph below that.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_12_2/denon-dvd-5910-dvd-player-4-2005-part-2.html

It's video processing masks it. Scroll down to the Benchmark Results and paragraph below that.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_12_2/denon-dvd-5910-dvd-player-4-2005-part-2.html

Thanks Jase. I'm demo-ing one tomorrrow!

Thanks Jase. I'm demo-ing one tomorrrow!

Nice one. Be interested to hear what you think of it. :)

nobody knows about the National Semi chipset?

nobody knows about the National Semi chipset?

Nope.

What do you want to know about it?

Nice one. Be interested to hear what you think of it. :)

Dem went well. Very well, although I picked-up a parking ticket outside the shop!

I've taken the plunge and bought it. Just waiting for it to come in stock now.